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i believe we have just seen the last american combat soldier cross into kuwait. yes, the gates are closing right now. this striker passing right now represents the last american combat troops in iraq. an historic milestone in iraq. nbc's richard engel on msnbc last night with exclusive coverage of the final u.s. combat brigade leaving iraq. 7 1/2 years after the u.s. launched a shock and awe campaign to take out iraqi dictator saddam hussein it will soon be replaced by "operation new dawn." what turned out to be faulty intelligence that said iraq had weapons of mass destruction, the war lasted longer than the civil war and world war ii. it took the lives of 4,219 troops. it's far from mission
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accomplished. 50,000 u.s. military personnel will stay around until next year training iraqi forces. i'm chris jansing live from world headquarters in new york. in just over an hour we'll see the first members of the stryker brigade coming home to ft. lewis. nbc has team coverage. richard engel was there with that exclusive nbc news coverage of the withdrawal and expert analysis from jack jacobs. richard, let me begin with you, you're at camp virginia in kuwait now. you had a front row seat to history. what was it like? >> there was, it was a very emotional time for these soldiers from the stryker brigade. they were sensing that something was changing, that the combat mission was ending. so many soldiers here have been watching this war since they were children, in fact. some of these soldiers, 7 1/2
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years ago were still in high school or even less than that when this war began and they've been watching these images shock and awe the troop surge, some of them were involved in the troop surge itself and they had seen for years all of those pictures of car bombings, aftermath, soldiers being injured in combat and then to be part of the final american troops, the ones assigned specifically with the combat role crossing that border into kuwait. it was, for them, you could sense that a turning point had come. on a windless morning, already near 1 00 degrees before sunris, the 30-ton strikers cross into kuwait. 430 soldiers in 68 strikers. the last american combat troops leave iraq. >> good job, guys. good job. good job! >> reporter: just two american soldiers greet them as they cross the border, an understated
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arrival. although the soldiers have been driving all night, some cheer. >> we're going home! >> reporter: or light cigars. we accompanied the striker on their journey out of iraq. code name the last patrol. it began on a base on the edge of baghdad. with the soldiers set off on the 3 -- >> well, afraid, richard, somebody hit a wrong button back in the control room. but, absolutely -- >> yes, it sounds like it. >> remarkable stuff. i'm curious, i mean, obviously, you can never generalize for a group of men, obviously, happy to be going home. are there mixed emotions there and how do they feel about what they've accomplished in iraq? >> they feel, generally, and, obviously, it's hard to generalize and i've spoken to many soldiers on this patrol and
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many soldiers in general. they feel they have accomplished a great deal. they are evlooing irleaving ira than they found it. some were in and with other divisions at the time and they were involved with the 2003 push into baghdad when there was a dictator here, saddam hussein. they feel, they toppled that dictator and that was a success. other soldiers, part of the fort, too, came back for the troop surge. they were involved in stopping a civil war and now they feel they left with a very honorable exit. while troops were leaving from iraq to kuwait, not a single shot was fire and that is testimony to how things have changed here. clearly, a lot of work still needs to be done in iraq. those 50,000 advise and assist soldiers who will be there working with the iraqi army will be also in harm's way. rockets and indirect fire could come on to their bases. they could be accompanying american forces, could be accompanying iraqi forces on
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some missions and they won't be doing direct combat, but they still will be in harm's way. one phase of this war has certainly ended. >> richard, if you could stay with us, i want to bring in retired colonel jack jacobs. he is a decorated combat veteran, medal of honor recipient and msnbc news military analyst. i think it is important to point out, jack, that there have been some very hard security gains there. progress has been made in iraq. what's the biggest challenge now to keeping those gains from backtracking? >> some things are under our control and some things are not. we are there to train the iraqis, both police and military. we've got a very short time to do it. we're going to be out of there in short order and we have a very short time to train these people. up to the standard it takes in order to protect themselves. we do have some impact on that and the kids who are left behind. there are 50,000 of them that will work real hard and do it.
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some things we do not have any control over and one of them is the government in iraq. at the end of the day, only the iraqis can put their government together. >> give us a status report, if you will, richard, on the search, essentially, for a stable government in iraq. >> i think i can describe it in one word, deadlocked. there are many, many problems and the parties are not accommodating each other. the prime minister mall eky does not want to leave in part for personal reasons. he is afraid he will be slapped with numbers. how much his government has been accused of stealing while it was in power and when prime minister malaki came to office, he was put up on corruption charges. when he leaves, the same thing
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will happen to him. also the religious aspect of all of this. he represents a shiite party and shiites are in power here and they do not want to give it up. the complications and the negotiations are very entrenched and last we spoke to the different political parties, they were not very close to a resolution. the americans are trying to mediate this to some degree, but they don't want to push too hard. they don't want to set up a configuration that won't last and that could quickly collapse. >> so, you have this combination of things, colonel. you have, first of all, the instability, lack of a central government and you have u.s. combat troops leaving and there are lot of iraqis who are worried that this period of uncertainty is going to open up opportunity for militants to exploit it. how much of a concern is that? >> it's a very big concern. they already started working on it. you remember just a couple days ago a suicide bomber detonated a bomb in the middle of a bunch of recruits who were trying to join
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the army, killing and wounding more than 200 people. i think you can expect this kind of violence to continue. there's going to be a continued attempt to destabilize the situation by people who do not want to see a political and military resolution inside iraq and that, that concerns both us and a lot of the, a lot of the people inside iraq. then you have the whole problem of the infrastructure. there's not enough electricity and so on. this could only come with a resolution of the military problems that exist inside iraq. >> all right, colonel jacobs, thanks to you and thanks to richard for what is extraordinary reporting there. we want to put this in a little context, if we can. we have some graphics for you about the statistics on the war in iraq and operation iraqi freedom. it went on for seven years, four months and 30 days. our men and women were over there. 160,000 troops were deployed. as we had mentioned before, more than 4,400 of them did not come
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home and we had a tremendous number of wounded, more than 31,000 at a cost of an estimated $900 billion to $1 trillion. but as we said, many gains were made, as well. we did it with the hard work and sacrifice of so many members of the u.s. military. the fourth striker combat team is based in ft. lewis, washington. big welcome home ceremony will get under way in the next hour. right now i'm joined by staff sergeants barber and davis, both with the 32 stryker brigade combat team. they both returned from iraq just a couple weeks ago. gentlemen, welcome home. it's so good to see you. >> same here, good to see you, too. >> harrison barber, let me start with you. home is st. louis, missouri, if i understand. tell me what you have been doing
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since you touched down on u.s. soil again. >> just reintegrated with my family and my wife and just enjoying my time back in the states. >> what is the first thing you're going to do when you get home and have that reunion? >> the first thing is we're taking our vacation, a cruise and seeing my mom and my sister and eating a nice meal. >> oh, i'm always curious about that. what have you been craving the most? what is the order you put in for your first meal back home? >> probably steak. not quite sure, but craving a little bit of everything. >> yeah, i can understand that. a cruise sounds nice, too. staff sergeant ryan davis, pt orange, florida, what have your last couple weeks been like? >> i have been home for a little bit longer than he has. our unit came back after ten months. just have really been spending time with family and stuff and watching my little girl grow up before my eyes, you know. >> how old is she?
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>> it's a blessing to be home. she is 20 months sglp 20 months. >> and you left when she was what age? when you got deployed to iraq, how old was she? >> probably about 8 months old. >> how much did she change in the time that you were gone? >> when i left she wasn't really doing much. i came home and she was walking and everything. it was a pretty cool sight to see. >> did she recognize her daddy right away? >> we're still working on that. takes a little bit of time. >> you know, it points out, ryan, just how difficult this is on the families, as well. tell me a little bit about that because i think oftentimes we don't talk about the sacrifice by the families, as well. >> the families play a big part in what we're able to do here and overseas. without their support, we really wouldn't be able to function, wouldn't be able to concentrate
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on our jobs and it just wouldn't work that way. so, they are definitely a very big supporting cast in our lives and all military members' lives. >> haurson, i don't know if you had a chance to listen earlier, we were talking about the security gains made in iraq and what has been accomplished because there has been a lot of emphasis on the things that have gone wrong in the war. what are you most proud of what you accomplished and what your fellow military accomplished over there? >> this last tour we did a lot of trabing with the iraqi forces and military forces. compared to the first tour to now, the gains they made and their training and competency level as far as being able to conduct things on their own, that's one of the things i'm most proud of. how much we got to see them grow and become more independent. >> i am going to drive my control room crazy right now but the man sitting next to me who
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happens to be a medal of honor winner is dying to get in here and ask a question. jack, i have to let you do that. >> thanks for letting me. what is the thing that surprised you the most when you went over to iraq the first time? how well prepared were you to get over there and what surprised you the most when you got over? >> ryan, let me let you answer that question. >> it's strange. training can only get you so far. really, once you get there and, really, the bullets start flying and stuff, i mean, that's when it goes to a whole new level. but it was very hectic when we first went over there and it's now definitely a lot better. >> ryan davis, harrison barber, i think you're speaking to a grateful nation. we thank you for your service and have a heck of a good time back with your families. thank you so much, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> thank you.
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breaking news on msnpc. new applications for unemployment hit 500,000 people last week. the highest it has been since november and decided that companies are cutting jobs again. that massive national egg recall has grown to 32 million cartons. that's roughly 380 million eggs linked to a national salmonella
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outbreak. hundreds of people have gotten sick across four states. cdc investigators have tracked food poisoning from eggs in multiple states all that to wright county egg in golds, iowa. tom costello has the details and, tom, how serious is this? we are talking about huge numbers, but could a lot more people potentially get sick here sph. >> yes and yes. they are expecting that the numbers will start to grow rather dramatically. listen to this number, we kind of casually mention this, 380 million eggs being recalled. that's a massive number and you and i and most americans eat about 248 eggs a year and you say, no, i don't. well, consider all the ingredients and all the different things you eat and the salad bars and every time you eat out. so, all of that adds up. 248 is the total per capita per year and this recall involves a lot of eggs. 380 million and the number has grown rather substantially. video of wright county egg, the
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big egg manufacturing that is in gault, iowa. they believe this plant is the source of it and this is what is disturbing. they believe the salmonella has enter under to the hen population. it's not a matter of picking up the salmonella from chicken feces, it's a matter the egg comes from the hen, it's actually in the dna somehow of the egg. let's take a look at what the brand names involved are. because we're now really talking about this thing spreading across the country. big names, they include and we're not singling anybody out here albertson's, dutch farms, lucerne, pacific coast. it's a long list, more of it is on our website, msnbc.com. if you never had salmonella it's not pleasant, they include cramping, nausea, diarrhea and all of that within 8 to 72 hours. chris, the bottom line is if you have these eggs, get rid of them. here are the stamps to look for
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on the cartons. they are p-1720, p-1026. p-14130 and p-1946. that would be at the end of the carton of egg and look for those stamps between the end of may and beginning of august. >> if you have eggs from may 16th, you should have thrown them away already. i am making light of a very serious situation. >> again, people you can check msnbc.com to get that information and double check what's in your refrigerator right now. all right, take a look at your tv right now. a bull jumps out of a ring right into an arena jam packed with spectators leaving dozens injured. incredible details in three. oh, new phillips' colon health probiotic plus fiber.
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turned the table on spectators in spain. you've got to see this. in the blink of an eye, the bull is in the stands charging through a panicked crowd. a 10-year-old boy is in the hospital in serious condition. he was gored in the stomach. in all, about 40 people were hurt. okay, this story is just super gross, bed bugs are now everywhere. not just in new york city and not just in beds these creepy crawlers are invading schools, fire departments and movie theaters from colorado to ohio. jeff rossen has been tracking them. >> follow the bull, though. >> i think people are a lot less worried about the bull than the bed bugs. >> the thing is there are so many of these bed bugs, they're traveling. don't get me wrong, they still live in your sheets, they love it there. but the population just keeps expanding at alarming rates. they travel to the movie
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theaters and they sit in the movie theater seats and it happened already here in new york city. >> i'm in love. >> reporter: who knew watching a chick flick could be so itchy. they're headed to the movies and experts say they're multiplying. those tiny little creatures we love to hate. bed bugs. just this month a confirmed invasion at this amc movie theater in new york's times square. official husband to shut it down when this moviegoer was bitten in her seat. >> i was watching the movie and all of a sudden my whole arm got itchy and i just started scratching and then these huge bumps and red welts appeared. >> reporter: that's gross. >> really gross. >> reporter: bed bugs were spotted in that same theater two weeks earlier and in upper manhattan, yet another bed bug invasion just this month. in an e-mail to nbc, amc said we will continue to vigserously inspect our theaters and
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instantly treat any bed bug detections. it's not just the big cities, in connecticut, bed bugs climb the pole inside a firehouse. in pennsylvania, an infestation inside a classroom and in colorado the bed bugs look to better themselves in a library. not to mention outbreaks at a new york city victoria secret's store and abercrombie & fitch, most likely, experts say, carried in by unsuspecting customers. >> many of them hitch a ride so you deposit them in a department store and they're pretty mobile with you. >> reporter: they feed off human blood, you can see it if you look closely enough and for a hungry bed bug, nighttime is feeding time. >> over the last ten years, their population has been exploding and, in fact, there are no effective pesticides that can control them. >> reporter: and that's the reason, experts say, we're seeing them in movie the eiters,
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classrooms and libraries. your bed gets cramped. more bugs mean less space on the sheet so they latch on and travel with you, everywhere. >> ewww! >> it doesn't seem like anywhere is safe from bed bugs these days. offices, movie theaters, where are they going next. >> reporter: enjoy the movies this summer, just make sure you're the only one in your seat. >> i'll probably wait until fall or winter. >> reporter: to see a movie. >> i love that banner, they're everywhere. >> little tiny vampires. >> there is some good news. there is a tiny bit of good news here. bed bugs, they don't carry diseases, a bite is basically just gross, not dangerous. if you scratch it a lot, it could cause other infeck infectf you get this in your house or my house, it's really expensive because the exterminators can't get it just once, they have to
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come back several times and they get you. >> all right, jeff rossen. >> have a nice night's sleep tonight. marking an end to operation iraqi freedom, but the mission is frar from over. we asked jeff jacobs, did you have bed bugs in vietnam, he said they didn't have beds. 80% of. [ female announcer ] eyes feeling overworked? discover visine® tired eye relief with hydroblend™, only from visine®. just one drop instantly soothes and revives tired, overworked eyes. and comforts them for up to ten hours. visine® tired eye relief. try now and save $3. so i take one a day men's 50+ advantage. as a manager, my team counts on me to stay focused. it's the only complete multivitamin with ginkgo to support memory and concentration. plus vitamin d to help maintain healthy blood pressure. [ bat cracks ] that's a hit.
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night and she asked steven lanza about that transition and whether u.s. troops could get pulled back into the fight. >> should we still call this a war? >> i think we call it, i wouldn't call it a war per se. i would call it the fact that we're enabling iraq to move forward. there's a chance here for iraq in terms of where they are right now to move forward, not only in this region, but also to help the people. i think what we've done here is we've given them an opportunity to help the people. >> if there were a violent coup attack or attack here, obviously, having 50,000 trained armed americans here, even if it's not a combat mission is something that the iraqi government, such as it is, might turn to for assistance to try to defend anybody from a coup or try to respond to some sort of terrorist event. how would we handle that request? >> to continue to train, advise and assist the security forces. any change to that mission in terms of what we have been tasked to do has to be a policy
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decision. the iraqi government will have to make a request, but a policy decision in terms of anything that will change our mission and in terms of what we're doing for "operation new dawn." >> for many u.s. troops this is a day of mixed emotion. pride and honor, of course, but also the pain with thousands of lost american lives, thousands more injured in the fight. nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel spoke to one of the returning soldiers as his convoy rolled out of iraq. >> it's hard to explain how you feel right now. you're watching the end of an era of the american military. as we cross into iraq, a war that has defined this generation of military men and women. and today it's over. i was 17 when i watched, you know, third id cross from kuwait into iraq. >> 17 years old. >> 17 years old. a junior in high school.
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>> this war is really not just to find your military experience, it's bracketed your life. >> it was part of my, in some way, part of my young adult life. i knowingly joined the military knowing i would most likely deploy to iraq. and to actually be part of that last unit coming out is a huge amount of pride for me. you know, to be able to say, yes, we were the last combat unit in iraq. we were the ones that finished that combat mission and we did it, we did a really good job. >> jim miklaszewski chief pentagon correspondent for nbc news and i think that little segment kind of crystalized what a lot of americans are wondering because, yes, we say that the combat mission is over and, yet, we know we still have 50,000 troops there who are very definitely in harm's way. definitely security issues, a lot of concerns. how does the pentagon realistically view the role now
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in iraq? >> well, chris, i think it's important for americans to know that u.s. combat forces in iraq have not actually been conducting formal combat missions there for months now. but even as the number of forces draws down to 50,000, presumably by september 1st, that will include six of the so-called advise and assist brigades who will be working directly with the iraqi military in terms of mentoring through their operations, actually. not only the planning and execution, but some of the intel and things like that. but it could also put some of those 20,000 plus u.s. combat forces that will remain in iraq in these advise and assist brigades in situations where they could actually find themselves embedded with iraqi forces and face actual combat conditions and even though it's not a formal combat mission, there could still be some u.s. casualties in the months ahead. and there are some 4,500 special
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operation forces that are still conducting counterterrorism operations, not formal combat missions. but as they pursue al qaeda there inside iraq they will, in fact, be involved in times at combat situations. so, it's not exactly an end to all potential combat situations, but it is an end to the formal combat mission for americans in iraq, chris. >> jim mimiklaszewski, thank yo mik. >> you bet. for many critics of the iraq war it could not have come soon enough. they point to the more than 4,400 americans killed and the soar $900 billion plus price tag. with the heart of democracy in the middle east, supporters say it was worth the sacrifice. let's bring in john shultz. john, good morning to you. i want to point out that you served in iraq. what is your feeling today? >> well, it's a mixed feeling. this war has dominated my life both as someone who fought there and since i have come home to sort of work against the continued presence there.
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but i would just, you know, really encourage all americans to understand that this war has not ended and whether or not politicians want to call this a war, when you have young americans that are in harm's way that there is a war going on. a lot of our logisticsove equipment around the country and we have no political reconciliation in iraq and we still have combat troops on the ground, but they're not packaged in combat units but infantry men, you know, people who are artillery men who are embedded with iraqi units. so, i think the administration should be careful not to have a second mission accomplished here because now the public thinks this war is over but it's actually not for the people still on the ground. we have a ways to go before we fully end our presence there. >> i think a lot of people would make the argument and you heard it before just this morning in this hour i talked to a couple of the young men who are returning from iraq, they're very proud of what they accomplish. they feel they are leaving a
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more secure country than they found when they first went in to iraq and, obviously, the concern is that if you just take everybody out, that all those hard gains could be lost. that a transition period is needed. what do you say to those folks? >> well, i think that's already happened. i mean, right now you have a situation and you don't even know who is in charge of iraq. is it maliki or malawi. what is going to happen with the town of kirkuk where saddam hussein repainted ethnic groups in that city. when we leave, if there is no political reconciliation, violence will continue. of course there is violence when the united states intervenes we changed the dynamic of a civil war that was in place for years. i think the real ideological question for the united states in the future of our country is, what is our role in intervention of foreign conflicts and i think iraq is a real historical evaluation that needs to happen in the history of our country.
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the u.n. general assembly will meet today to discuss speeding up to flood ravaged pakistan. addressing the dire need for aid and to get it there fast. more than 4 million pakistanis are homeless after nearly three weeks of those disastrous floods. the u.s. is ramping up aid to that flood-ravaged country, but millions of residents have clashed with police outraged by the lack of help from their own government. nbc stephanie gosk joins us live on the phone from islamabad and, stephanie, what, where are the most pressing needs and how fast is it likely to get there? >> well, chris, one of the problems is that the pressing need covers a huge span of this country. 600 miles or so. today the u.n. said that 8 million people are in need of urgent relief. that's the population of new york city. and they have to have spread from being, basically, from north to south and they said that a lot of people have yet to receive basic shelter, food,
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water and they've been in this position for about two, some of them three weeks and they're growing desperate. as a result of that desperation, they've started to protest and their anger is towards the government here. they don't believe that the government is doing enough. specifically, they're angry at president zadari who left on a trip to europe. to keep those protests from growing to a point where they destabilize this country is if they get on the aid on the ground now. pledges of increased donations are great and, of course, the u.n. now saying that they've got about half of what they want. but that needs to translate into water. it needs to translate into tents and translate into foods. until it happens, people there are going to be angry. >> as horrible of a situation for those healthy folks, so many that were injured. what is the status of medical aid coming in.
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>> well, we haven't seen much at all. but, you know, there are a lot of people who are in need of it because illnesses spread and the lack of clean drinking water and also living outside and being exposed to bugs and mosquitos and malaria. there are a lot of concerns. >> thanks a lot, stephanie, gosk in pakistan for us. here at home, economic numbers out this morning show 500,000 people applied for unemployment benefits, the highest it's been since november. maybe it's no wonder then that a recent poll shows president obama pulling down his worst marks yet for the job he's doing with the economy. joining us, democratic supporter lady lynn foresther and joe an reid, political columnist for "miami herald." you see unemployment numbers like this and we hear the president saying, it's not happening fast enough, but we are moving in the right direction. has he made bad decisions?
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are we, americans, just too impatient? is it still about what the previous administration did? what's going on, do you think? >> no, what i think is going on is he's pursuing the wrong policies. he's not pursuing pro-growth policy. in the last recessions that we had, four quarters after the bottom of the recession, there have been on average 700,000 new jobs created. we are now four months out of the depth of this recession and we are 8 million jobs short of our last peak. that is an outrageous failure and it's a failure of policy. it's a failure of the president to put confidence into the small businesses and where people who have money will be willing to spend money to give people confidence that the government is behind the creation of wealth instead of really the distribution of wealth. >> they clearly had a strategy. we saw it yesterday, joann,
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yesterday with this sort of kitchen table strategy. he actually sat around a kitchen table with a couple and their two kids and then moved out to the backyard and there were 40 of their closest friends and neighbors and he took questions from them and said what he sees as the positive things that his administration were doing. did you buy it? >> well, you know what, i think he repeated sort of the same message when he came to miami and did a fund-raiser yesterday. the point that the president was trying to make is it took eight years. you talk about 8 million jobs in the hole. that didn't begin when obama took office in january of 2009. that began with eight years of economic policies that put us into a job deficit. that busceikini graph that show jobs plummeted from 2007 and throughout the time barack obama came into office. the point that he makes, it will take more than 19 months to climb out of a hole that took eight years to dig. that's a valid point. if i had a criticism of the administration, maybe they
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didn't prime the stimulus in the right way in terms of putting the infrastructure jobs and the visible things that people can see up front. people are really reacting to the fact that they don't see in their own personal lives the changes that have been made. >> people aren't reacting because of what's happening to them personally? >> no, i think it's because we have wrong policies. from 1993 until 2000, president clinton created 15 million jobs in this country. and in 1993, he went to congress and he passed the deficit reduction bill. he said, we cannot have, at that time, $470 billion of deficit. right now we have $1.8 trillion. he cut the deficit. he understood that the markets needed to have confidence that we as democrats, we cut the deficit. that the era of big government was over. but it didn't mean that we had a government that didn't care about the needy, it meant that we had a free enterprise government. as president clinton said, a
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government that steers more than rows. let the entrepreneurial spirit take over, not the sense of entitlement that president obama always talks about. he talks about our need to give. that is true. but, you know what, we also are people who create, we are people who build. that's what made america, america. i am a life-long democrat and my biggest disappointment is that this democrat is messing with the sauce of american goodness, american greatness. he's making us feel like our government needs to take care of us. >> it's interesting, too, to see what the perceptions are. joann i want to ask you about this new pew research poll. one in five people think president obama is a muslim way up from two years ago and most people said they learned from the media, he inserted himself into the mosque debate. how does this hurt him? by the way, only, i think, what,
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34% know he's christian. >> right. that's interesting because the seminole sort of controversy during the campaign is that his christian pastor rav rnd wright thought. if i could say one quick thing about the last comment that was made. the 1993 budget raised taxes and we have a republican party refusing to participate, they want to put us another $6 billion in the hole by extending the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest people. tax cuts are what we pursued under george w. bush and it did not work because we are where we are. on the islam issue, i think the president showed leadership in his initial comments and i think he said the right thing. if feep people are uncomfortablh the idea of the mosque, they did the right thing. i really don't understand why we shouldn't follow the constitution as the right is consstantly ed constantly doing. >> thanks for being with us.
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a 10-year-old boy got the shock of his life during a family vacation in north carolina. quentin tocar was on a pier watching fishermen wrangle a stingray when a piece of barb snapped off and went flying in the air and piercing him in the stomach and stabbed his liver. i talked to him and asked him how it all happened. >> we were on a pier and someone who was with us caught a stingray and brought it up on the pier and someone that we don't know tried to pull off the barb and it flew eight to ten feet and hit me in my stomach. >> how much did that hurt? >> a lot.
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>> we'll have much more of that interview coming up at 3:00. but leaving that barb in, there happened to be a nurse nearby and they left it in, which minimized the bleeding and ultimately saved his life. his dad, by the way, passed right out. who wouldn't? i would have if it was my kid. more of that interview coming up this afternoon. that will do it for me now, i'm chris jansing. i'll see you back here at 3:00 eastern talking with congressman joe sustek about what happens next for u.s. troops in iraq. norah o'donnell picks things up next. what do you have coming up? >> hey, chris. in the next hour a live report from ft. lewis in washington state where there's a big welcome home ceremony for soldiers expected to begin in just about half an hour from now. you bet that's going to be emotional. we'll have it for you live. also, we'll talk more about a new poll that shows more americans believe that president obama is a muslim. a look at what's behind the growing numbers in three minutes.
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i'm nora odonal and we begin this hour with a historymaking day in iraq. the final u.s. combat troops left the country crossing into kuwait just before dawn this morning. the moment marked the end of "operation iraqi freedom." nearly 7 1/2 years after the u.s.-led invasion began. but the u.s. mission in iraq is not over. some 50,000 american troops will stay for at least another year in noncom bat roles. the top u.s. troop level was at one time 170,000. the final u.s. combat troops that leave iraq are members of the fourth striker brigade. a big welcome home ceremony is scheduled to begin in just about half an hour from now. you can bet we will bring you that emotional homecoming live. special coverage with miguel who is at ft. lewis and richard engel who is at camp virginia in kuwait. but we begin with richard who provided

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